Leftist commentary from a mouthy bitch
Ok. Legion600’s post the other night highlighted what I really hate about most evangelical Christians. His post is here: http://www.livejournal.com/users/legion600/138310.html
Basically, upon reading the book “How the Irish Saved Civilization” they were to discuss it. Someone mentions the fact that Christianity was the motivating factor or catalyst (the monasteries) and one of the girls in the group says that they weren’t Christians, they were Catholics.
That’s right, for all of you Catholics who think you believe in Christ, according an awful lot of evangelicals, you don’t.
And yes, I realize this stupid shit has been going around since the Mother-loving Reformation, and it was just as stupid then as it is now. Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.
In every dictionary I’ve ever seen, the definition of Christian is someone who believes in the divinity of Christ, his existence and his teachings. Ok, unless I am SADLY mistaken, the Catholic faith kind of centers on this whole Christ-thing, yes?
And lets face it, most evangelical Christian groups don’t even believe that EACH OTHER are truly Christian. I’m serious. Ask a Baptist about a Nazarene. Or a Lutheran about a Mormon. Ok, maybe Mormon’s a bad example, but you get the drift.
An awful lot of people didn’t think JFK could be elected President because he was Catholic. In some areas of the country, John Kerry’s Catholicism counted against him as well.
And the thing that really grates my cheese about these people is the EGO involved in announcing that you have the ONE TRUE WAY. Apparently their Bibles are missing the humility part. Not to mention the fundamental insecurity of HAVING to convince other people that your way is the right way. Really, the way these folks are so rabid about converting others, you’d think their belief was really based on how many people they can convince they’re right. And every person they can’t convince eats just a little bit more of their soul.
Edited to fix the spelling of the world “Civilization” because I should really quit posting at one in the morning when my contacts have turned into potato chips.
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Since the entry was friends only
On a question about St. Patrick bringing Christianity to Ireland Home Schooled Military Girl says:
But he brought Catholicism, not Christianity.
After explaining that at that point the Catholics were for the most part all of Christianity (yes I know about Celt Christians, fuck off) she says, yeah but that’s Catholicism, St. Patrick was Roman Catholic.
That reminded of Celia’s history class that Kevin and I took back when he was a Mormon Elder. He was telling Celia how the Mormon church teaches that the Christian church died with Paul and was resurrected with the Mormons. Celia looked at him for a second and said, “Well, it’s nice you’re taught that. It’s wrong, but it’s nice your taught that.
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I miss Celia.
My dad had a similar discussion with one of his co-workers, who was discussing this wonderful Christian school he was sending his kids to. After the discussion the guy actually looked at the history textbooks. Wrong even by biblical standards.
Some people are just retarded.
Wonderful post. I apologize for not getting around to posting earlier on this.
I think I have a unique understanding of fundies in general. My ex and his entire family are either pastors or involved in a Pentecostal church.
All Fundies really, truly believe that if you don’t believe the way they do that you are a heretic and therefore you ar going to Hell. Between the different Fundie denominations they believe the other ones are going to Hell. I’ve yet to be around any Fundie (or Jehovah’s Witness) that didn’t absolutely, positively believe that Catholics were evil (and of course, going to Hell).
You haven’t lived until you’ve seen a group of grown women chasing invisible demons out of the church because a “witch” attended a party there the night before.
I could talk about this subject for HOURS. It’s one of my “soap box” issues. I’ll spare you my thoughts on Dubya and why his particular brand of “Christianity” is immoral and toxic.
Trust me, I understand. I lived in both Idaho and Wenatchee, WA.
I feel your pain.
You coming out tonight?
For me it was Texas; fundie central. Shudder…
Yep, I’ll be out tonight with Chrystene.